OpenGov.Watch 专访:Polkadot 具有 Web3 生态中最先进的治理系统

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作者:PolkaWorld

Polkadot 的治理在 2023 年 6 月 15 日过渡到了 OpenGov 模型,这个新模型的引入提高了网络治理的频率,增加了国库的活动,也吸引了更多的持有者自发的参与到网络的治理中,这也使 Polkadot 的治理进一步的去中心化。

在 PolkaWorld 第 50 期的专访中,我们邀请到了近期获得 Web3 基金会去中心化未来资助的 OpenGov.Watch,这是一个帮助引导社区更好参与治理的项目。他们的两位联合创始人 Enenkel & jeeper 与我们一起讨论了:

  • OpenGov 的民主性和面临的挑战

  • 分享对 OpenGov 的调研反馈

  • 对国库的资金花费应该保守还是开放?

  • 其他生态的链上治理是怎么样的?

  • 对 DOTA 提案被拒绝的看法

继续阅读,查看你感兴趣的话题!

主持人:Kristen, PolkaWorld 生态研究负责人

嘉宾:OpenGov.Watch 联合创始人 Tommi Enenkel & jeeper

Kristen:我们注意到 OpenGov.Watch 这个项目最近获得了去中心化未来的资助。是什么激发了你们对 OpenGov 产生兴趣,OpenGov.Watch 这个项目改进了什么?

Tommi:OpenGov 非常具有开创性。我们将 Web3 构建为一个全球社区,这不仅改革了互联网,也扩展了人类社会的可能性。OpenGov 是一个机制,允许许多人聚集在一起,构建架构,并就某件事情达成共识。比如 Polkadot,它的共识机制就是将许多不同的平行链聚集在一起。OpenGov 能让人们集中起来解决系统中的冲突,构建一个可以满足多数人利益的系统。

OpenGov 非常先进,使我们能够在复杂环境中工作。然而,许多参与者并不懂 “政治”,而是更了解技术和市场,因此有时候在治理中做出错误决定是在所难免的。我们的目标是发现如何优化 OpenGov 的方法,包括它的理念、流程和什么是有效的。我们通过积极监测 OpenGov 活动和促进领导力形成,旨在让人们更容易参与其中,并预防一些问题。

jeeper:我有政治科学和政治社会学的背景,个人非常喜欢 Polkadot,因为它具有 Web3 生态中最先进的治理系统。这也是我喜欢它的原因之一。另一方面,即使你没有很多钱,也可以构建生态并发声。只要你的观点合理,社区就会倾听。这是 OpenGov 最重要的一点。而通过 OpenWatch,我们可以让更多人看到那些 “弱小” 的声音。

Kristen:您认为 OpenGov 能带来真正的民主吗?

jeeper:Gavin 曾提到,目前 Polkadot 并不是刻意要实现民主。但在我看来,我们已经实现了民主,因为弱小的声音可以被看到。我们并不追求文字意义上一人一票的民主,而是更多人参与到生态治理中来。

Tommi - Twitter ID:Alice and Bob

Tommi:一个政治系统通常融合了多方力量和想法,包括民主元素、政治元素、持币者的力量和技术因素。构建协议的人也有一定的影响力,具有好想法的人也具有力量,我们很难简单地描述哪些是民主的,哪些不是。这是一个非常复杂的话题。

Kristen:我注意到你们在社区对 OpenGov 进行了一些调研,你们收到了什么反馈?

Tommi:我们收到的第一个反馈就是增加功能,使得在提名人池中 Staking 的用户可以参与 OpenGov,因为提名人池子不要求用户有多少 DOT 。而目前单独 Staking 需要至少 600 个DOT,这对于很多人来说是一个门槛。这个需求非常合理。另一个问题是,提案通过后,资金到账需要太长时间,这对依赖这些资金的项目造成了困难。

Kristen:实际上有多少人在 OpenGov 中投票?我看到了几个关于参与治理可以得到奖励的提案,但还没有达成一致。有什么想法可以让更多人参与进来吗?

jeeper:参与投票的占 DOT 总量的 11.12%。关于如何激励人们参与,我不太赞成简单地给投票人奖励。有关奖励的讨论中,有人提出可以不定期给参与过某个提案投票的人空投。还有一些传统的方式可以提高参与度,比如举行政治选举,用户可以将自己的票委托给代表。这样代表可以代表大家的声音。让人们充分了解到他们的声音有影响力。

jeeper

Kristen:你是更倾向于谨慎花费国库的资金,还是更加自由地支出?

jeeper:我的态度比较复杂。几个月前,我还是个激进主义者,认为应该尽可能多的支出国库的钱。但对于大额支出,我持保守态度。对于像 Polkadot Decoded 这样引起争议的大额开支,我们应该更加谨慎。

Tommi:我和 Jeeper 有不同的看法。我认为 OpenGov 的好处之一是可以充分讨论不同的意见。我更倾向于聪明地花钱,对于非常好的想法,我们可以花尽可能多的钱,但我会对很多想法持批判态度。

因此我花非常多的时间去思考所有的事情,希望给大家一个全面的地图。让大家清楚的站在整个生态的角度看到哪些方面需要花费。这样明确以后,大家会对自己申请的费用更加充满信心。

Kristen:Polkadot 的治理与其他生态系统相比如何?他们有类似的链上治理系统吗?他们有像 Polkadot 这样的国库吗?他们的投票和决策过程是否更好?

Tommi:每个生态系统的差别很大。但 Polkadot 还是具有 Web3 生态中最先进的治理系统!我认为 Cosmos 是链上治理发展也非常完善的生态。Cardano 目前还没有治理系统,他们的国库由基金管理,未来会改成链上。而 MakerDAO 则有成熟的民主治理结构和创新的 subDao。

很多生态系统存在争议,尤其涉及到验证人和持币者的权利和责任。例如,像 Cardano、Aptos 和 Cosmos 等生态系统吸引验证人,并赋予他们投票权利。然而,在我看来,验证人更像是服务提供商,而持币者则在维护网络安全方面扮演更重要的角色。相比之下,比特币的设计更加合理。因为在比特币网络中,矿工负责整个网络的安全,具有一定的投票权。对于其他生态系统而言,验证人虽然为网络提供了重要的服务,但持币者具有投票权更为合理。

Kristen:前段时间,DOTA 铭文给 Polkadot 中继链带来百万的线上交易,但即使这样的项目申请国库也面临了拒绝。你对在 OpenGov 中通过提案面临的挑战有什么看法?

jeeper:我个人支持这个提案。我对提案遭到反对感到惊讶,主要原因可能是他们在微信等亚洲社群中更活跃。为了让提案通过,在不同的渠道保持活跃并建立信誉非常重要。

Tommi:如何构建你的提案也非常重要。当我第一次看到 DOTA 的提案时,我的第一反应是质疑。但经过深思熟虑后,我认为他们为国库创造了大量收益,应得到奖励。

人们通常会非常快速的浏览提案,因此提案的标题以及首要的几个段落非常重要。你必须第一时间抓住他们的注意力,并且通过从不同的方向切入来调整提案。

Kristen:最后,你能分享一下接下来几个月的计划吗?

Tommi:我们计划开始规律地发布报告,包括治理月报和季度国库报告,介绍 OpenGov 发生的事情、通过的主要提案、讨论的热点问题等。我们还会汇集发布关于开发问题的讨论,列出问题清单和解决方案清单。并且为了帮助开发者找到开发方向,我们会列出生态需要的方向提案清单,以及 Bounty 清单,让开发者集中精力解决特定领域的问题。


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