比特币的用途
zz 说:
says:
bitcoin 的交易的过程都是公开可查的,所以转移资产这个有点不现实。用现金买卖 bitcoin 的网站都是需要真实的姓名和银行账户注册的,如果有大笔的现金转移很简单就会被人盯上吧,而且那些网站也是需要收手续费的
Bitcoin transactions are publicly available, so it's a bit unrealistic to transfer assets. Bitcoin websites are registered with real names and bank accounts, and if there's a lot of cash transfers, they'll be targeted, and they'll be billed
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sai 说:
says:
其实bitcoin现在就是处于你所说的不断增发的阶段总量2100w个 可现在挖出来的才1100w+ 直到2140年才会到达2100w
In fact, bitcoin is now in what you call the 2100-w surge, but it's only 1100-w+ that's been dug up until 2140.
Chunlin Zhang 说:
Chunlin Zhang said:
"我在国内市场上用人民币买入比特币" 这个好操作吗?
"I bought bitcoin in the domestic market." Is that good?
henix 说:
henix says
现在已经有很多类似比特币的电子货币了,还可以跟比特币互相买卖,比如 ripple
There's a lot of bitcoin-like e-money that can be traded with bitcoin, for example, ripple.
25 October 2013 11:01
@包子笔记
说:
比特币引起通缩的问题你多虑了,的确可能会引起通缩,但按照自由市场的理论通缩未必是坏事。举个简单的例子,假如当前一个比特币可以买一个面包,十天后可以买10个面包,如果一个人只有一个比特币,那么他是选择买面包吃活下来呢,还是持有比特币增值呢?其实长期的看贵金属也在不断涨价,但还是有人愿意出售贵金属,是同样的道理。人死了,钱没花了,最形象的说明了这点。流通还是不流通,只要是每个人自己定夺的,流通速度就是合理的。如果是这样,叫不叫他货币也无所谓了,而是一种比法币更好的金融工具。 Bitcoin is causing deflation, and it may cause deflation, but deflation according to free-market theory is not necessarily bad. To give a simple example, if a bitcoin can buy a bread today, 10 bread in 10 days, and if a man has only one bitcoin, does he choose to buy bread to live or to hold bitcoin in value? Indeed, long-term price increases for precious metals, but it is also true that someone is willing to sell precious metals.
廖俊媛 说:
刚刚了解这个新生事物,我去google一下,了解详情
Just getting to know this new thing. I'm going to google and get the details.
hyperion_cc 说:
says
都是技术宅自己玩的东西,金融大鳄和国家机器不会让这种不受控的货币体制统一全球的。就算电子货币真的取代纸币了,最后也会是比特人民币,比特美元。。。一堆货币系统。现在的比特币就是靠炒作,最后终归是小散户接盘
It's all techno-house stuff, and the financial alligators and state machines don't let this uncontrollable monetary system unify the world. Even if electronic money really replaces paper currency, it'll end up with bitcoins, bit dollars. A bunch of money systems. Bitcoins now work.
Teddysun 说:
said
在国内市场上用人民币买入比特币,这个操作还是要涉及到个人隐私,资金转移去向在银行会查到(除非用现金)。
比特币现在还没到一定规模,如果政府想要追查,还是有办法的。
In order to buy bitcoin in the domestic market, the operation involves personal privacy, and transfers to banks (unless cash is used).
bitcoin is not yet of a certain size, and if the government wants to pursue it, there is a way.
Henry 说:
Henry says
我想知道比特币放在哪里啊,如果断电断网了,还能用吗
I want to know where the bitcoin is.
abc 说:
abc says
引用廖俊媛的发言:刚刚了解这个新生事物,我去google一下,了解详情
Just getting to know this new thing. I'm going to google and get the details.
很旧的事物了
It's old stuff.
memorybox 说:
memorybox says
有点错误,比特币交易是收手续费的,这笔费用会用于全网矿工的"辛苦费",因为比特币全部生产完毕后,挖矿体系还需要交易费来支撑运作。
There was a mistake, the Bitcoin transaction was for a charge for a "workout fee" for a whole net miner, because after the entire production of Bitcoin, the mining system would also need a transaction fee to support operations.
转移资产这个想法,已经有人在做了,他们想的更大,想要从全球汇兑市场分一杯羹。
http://buttercoin.com/
The idea of transferring assets is already being done, and they're thinking bigger and want a piece from the global exchange market.
http://buttercoin.com/
寻求虚拟货币整合交易的想法,也早早有人涉足了:
www.ripple.com/?
The idea of a virtual currency consolidation deal has long been approached:
www.ripple.com/?
BTC其实不是新生事物了,我记得最早在南方周末 09年就有报道。最近读到的比较好的文章,这里有一些:
http://zhiqiang.org/blog/it/technical-document-of-bitcoin.html
BTC isn't really new, I remember it was in the South as early as weekend 09. More recently, better articles were read:
还有早期https://bitcointalk.org/论坛上面有一些很精彩的讨论。
zhihu上面也有些:
http://www.zhihu.com/question/19653494
There were also some interesting discussions at the early https://bitcointalk.org/forum.
there were also some discussions at the forum:
. http://www.zhihu.com/ Question/19653494
这真的是个非常革命性的idea,从目前发展的趋势看,仅仅是个投机工具,我觉得BTC本身不会成为电子货币最后的终端,而是会发展成为类似黄金,成为"金本位"一类的基础支撑物。
It's really a very revolutionary idea, and from the current trend, it's just a tool of speculation, and I think that BTC itself will not be the final end of an electronic currency, but rather will develop into a gold-like foundational support, such as a gold standard.
simonliu 说:
says
引用zz的发言:bitcoin 的交易的过程都是公开可查的,所以转移资产这个有点不现实。用现金买卖 bitcoin 的网站都是需要真实的姓名和银行账户注册的,如果有大笔的现金转移很简单就会被人盯上吧,而且那些网站也是需要收手续费的
Bitcoin transactions are publicly available, so it's a little unrealistic to transfer assets. Bitcoin websites are registered with real names and bank accounts. If there's a lot of cash transfers, they'll be targeted, and they'll be billed.
zz说的没错。
比特币转账是匿名的,但是要兑换成美元或者人民币(国内外的一些比特币交易所)这个过程是可以追查的;
比特币转账需要少量的手续费,如果在交易所买卖比特币,交易所会收取一定的手续费(千分之几)。
zz is true.
Bitcoin transfers are anonymous, but the process of converting into United States dollars or renminbi (a few bitcoin exchanges at home and abroad) is traceable;
Bitcoin transfers require a small fee, and if Bitcoin is traded on the exchange, the exchange will charge a certain fee (in thousands).
simonliu 说:
says
引用Chunlin Zhang的发言:"我在国内市场上用人民币买入比特币" 这个好操作吗?
"I bought bitcoin in the domestic market." Is that good?
国内最大的比特币交易所,买卖比特币其实和炒股差不多。
The country's largest Bitcoin exchange, buying and selling bitcoin is in fact about the size of the stock.
26 October 2013 08:50
chandler
说:
chandler says bitcoin这个东西几年前就有所听闻,当时正赶上整体价格跳水,所以感觉像是旁氏骗局一类的东西。上个月为了做一个presentation仔细了解了bitcoin的整个产生背景,运作机制和发展状况,越来越觉得这是个将要打破传统金融秩序的产品。它这种去中心化和有限增长的模式就是当初设计者故意而为之的,就是选择相信自己而非政府与银行家——因为他们总是拿储户的存款进行投资而让储户承担商业风险并且时不时过发货币通胀攫取储户财产。 Bitcoin, something that was heard a few years ago, was catching up with the whole price jump, so it felt like a Ponzi scam. Last month, to get a picture of the whole background of bitcoin, its operating mechanisms and its development, it became increasingly felt that it was a product that would break the traditional financial order. Its model of decentralization and limited growth was deliberately designed by its designers, which chose to believe in themselves rather than the government and the bankers – because they always put savers at business risk by investing in them, and from time to time by currency inflation. 至于你所说的通货紧缩问题,中本聪的对策是比特币可以被分割到小数点后8位,而且支持非整数的比特币交易。那么随着比特币的升值,举例来说一个比特币100刀,那么当你需要购买一个1刀的物品只需要支付0.01bitcoin就足够了。现有bitcoin量大约9百万个,再划分成8千万份就有720000000000000个,怎么会不够花呢? As for what you have said about deflation, the response is that Bitcoins can be divided into eight decimal places and support uninteger bitcoins. So, as bitcoins rise, for example, 100 bitcoins, it's enough when you have to pay 0.01 bitcoin for a piece of a knife. There's about 9 million bitcoin, and 80 million pieces, and there are 72,000,000.
小楼
说:
比特币本身是通胀的,要搞清楚这一点,通缩只是相对于法币发生的情况。。。它的算法规则规定了,它目前应当是10分钟新产生25个币,也就是说每天增发25*6*24=3600个比特币(最近几个月实际大约每天新产生7000个比特币吧,疯狂的矿机竞争造成的)。但是比特币通缩是因为人们对它的需求量太大了所以相对于我们的法币产生了严重的通缩。像你说的保持稳定币值除非有一个中央机构根据市场情况来管控比特币的发行量,那它就毫无意义了。所以比特币的规则是告诉你它本身每年会有10~20%的通胀(随着时间的推移这个通胀会越来越小),它本身所有的一切都是公开透明的,看你接不接受它的玩法。实际上假如我们所有的法币都强制被兑换成比特币,那么比特币就是通胀的货币,但是通胀会随着时间越来越小。你所观察到的通缩只是相对法币发生的假象。 Bitcoin is inflation in itself, and to understand it, deflation is only a case of French currency. Its algorithmic rule is that it should now produce 25 new coins in 10 minutes, i.e. 25 *6 * 24 = 3600 bitcoins per day (actually about 7,000 bitcoins per day in recent months, as a result of a mad mine competition). But bitcoin deflation is due to the fact that it is too much needed to have a serious deflation against our French currency. As you say, it is meaningless unless there is a central agency that controls the distribution of bitcoins according to market conditions. So Bitcoin’s rule is to tell you that it itself has 10-20% inflation per year (which will become smaller over time), all of which is open and transparent, and you will not accept it. In fact, if all of our French coins are forced into bitcoins, then bitcoin is the currency of inflation, but inflation will become smaller over time.
luke
说:
says: 我最多的时候,持有20个,后来资金短缺,就都卖了。有钱可以投资一下,这个收益不错。 I had 20 at the top, and then I was short of money, and I sold them. I had money to invest in, and it was a good return. 怎么购买? How? October 28, 2013 14:08
max
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max says 世界上不能自由兑换货币的国家其实不多,如果把GDP排名前50位的国家做个筛选,我估计天朝是唯一的,世界上灰色收入这么多的国家估计也不多,如果把GDP排名前50位的国家做个筛选,我估计天朝是唯一的。比特币汇兑会有损失,而且可追溯,所以需求量不会太高。 There are not many countries in the world that cannot convert freely, and if one screens the top 50 countries of GDP, I estimate that Tian Dynasty is the only country in the world with such a large grey income, and if one screens the top 50 countries of GDP, I estimate Tian Dynasty is the only one. Bitcoins are lost and can be traced, so demand is not too high. 28 October 2013 20:41
王云龙
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says: 这个小站真不错,首页那个奇葩弹出消息框怎么搞的 It's a nice little station. What happened to the weird pop-up box on the front page? October 29, 2013 14:46
土木坛子
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says: 一峰可以考虑接受bitcoin付费或者捐款。 At a peak, consideration could be given to receiving payments or contributions from bitcoin. 现在我依然持有这种观点。虽然我本人对比特币并不看好,但它作为一个工具,我也可以使用它。所以我也欢迎朋友们使用比特币捐赠我的小公益:https://tumutanzi.com/archives/11055 当然,也面向国外朋友:https://tumutanzi.com/archives/12112 I still have that view. Although I don't like it personally, I can use it as a tool. So I also welcome the use of bitcoin by friends to donate my little public good: https://tumuttanzi.com/archives/11055 and, of course, to friends abroad: https://tumuttanzi.com/archives/12112.
土木坛子
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says: 这个小站真不错,首页那个奇葩弹出消息框怎么搞的 It's a nice little station. What happened to the weird pop-up box on the front page? 在个人网站和博客中,这个不是一个小站了,阮兄是我最尊敬的博主(无之一)。 This is not a small stop in personal websites and blogs, and Brother Nguyen is one of my most respected bloggers.
土木坛子
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says: 我主要是对比特币这种东西的价值来源,不能认可,它的价值几乎是凭空而起,来源不正。 I am primarily a source of value for something such as bitcoin, and I cannot accept it. Its value is almost empty and its source is not right.
timestamp
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timestamp says 那位,既然不赞同比特币的理念,为何又支持比特币捐赠呢? Well, if you don't agree with Bitcoin's idea, why do you support Bitcoin's donation? 资产转移只是比特币一个很小的应用,比特币的意义不全在此,甚至也不全在货币,区块链还可改变会计业、银行业、证券业、投融资、律师业以及公证等行业。如果说互联网创造了一个数据可任意复制的时代,比特币则创造了一个数据不可复制的时代(在此之前都是不可能做到的),两者都是技术史上的奇迹。 The transfer of assets is only a small bitcoin application, and bitcoin means nothing here, or even money, and the chain of blocks can change accounting, banking, securities, financing, lawyers, and notaries. If the Internet creates an era in which data can be reproduced arbitrarily, bitcoin creates an era in which data are not replicable (which was impossible before), both are miracles in the history of technology. 更多关于比特币的技术发展,可以关注 http://www.8btc.com/ 巴比特 More on Bitcoin's technological development, attention can be given to http://www.8btc.com/Babit
琥珀
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said: The First Bitcoin ATM at Vancouver, Canada http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/10/bitcoin_atm_gallery/
inspironX
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inspironx says 有些情况LZ还不太了解. I don't know that the U.S. government has been following this deal long ago. In May, U.S. regulators blocked two bank accounts of the world's largest Bitcoin exchange, Mt. Gox. Don't underestimate the alertness of U.S. intelligence agencies.
timestamp
说:
timestamp says 关于通缩问题,有人回应你了:阮先生,别被学院派经济学洗脑了! On the subject of deflation, you have been answered: Mr. Nguyen, don't be brainwashed by the economics of the Academy! 1 November 2013: 20:39 #/ahref=https://www.ruanyifeng.com/blog/2013/10/bitcoin.html > > ;
锦衣卫加密顾问
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says 我刚刚比特币投机中赔了8000元,做的是十倍的杠杆交易,风险成倍放大,最终是交易网站跑路了,据说警方已经立案,但是我的钱是输掉了,认赌服输吧! I just lost $8,000 in bitcoin speculation. Ten times the leverage, the risk doubled, and eventually the trading website ran off. The police are said to have opened a case, but my money is lost. 我觉得比特币的发展方向是互联网的储备黄金,以后的比特币会集中在几大机构的手里,他们根据对方的持有量排出江湖地位和信誉,他们相互之间实行清算服务,同时给其服务的客户提供及时的支付服务和贷款,类似汇丰、花旗、瑞银等银行集团。 I believe that Bitcoin is moving in the direction of Internet reserves of gold, and that later bitcoin will be concentrated in the hands of a number of large institutions, which, depending on each other's holdings, separate from each other's status and credibility, perform liquidation services among themselves, while providing timely payment services and loans to clients of their services, such as conglomerates, flags, silver and other banking groups. 我猜最大的比特币持有者应该是史玉柱! I'm guessing the biggest Bitcoin holder is Stadium!
pnig0s
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pnig0s says 比特币是透明的,想追查的话,可以追查每一笔比特币的交易过程,因此不能用于洗钱或转移资产。 Bitcoins are transparent and, if they are to be traced, they can be traced to the course of every bitcoin transaction and therefore cannot be used for money-laundering or for the transfer of assets.
pink
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link says 匿名性仅存在于比特币之间的传输,BTC交易平台的存在不在其设计的范畴内,在BTC设计的框架内进行的交易是无法追踪的。 Anonymous exists only in transfers between bitcoin, the existence of BTC trading platforms is not within the scope of their design, and transactions carried out within the framework of the BTC design cannot be traced.
仰肖
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said: 这玩意,现在真火。 This thing, it's really hot now. November 16, 2013 12:26
hencey
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says 关于通缩问题,有人回应你了:阮先生,别被学院派经济学洗脑了! On the subject of deflation, you have been answered: Mr. Nguyen, don't be brainwashed by the economics of the Academy! 动不动就“洗脑”,这种随意扣帽子的说法可不太好 "Brainwashing" when you can't move. That's not a good idea.
Mike
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says: 弗里德曼早就说过了 MV=PQ Friedman said it a long time ago. 27 November 2013 00:04
buffett
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buffett says 关键是你买了,当你卖的时候,没人买了。或者买不了了,这个没有任务价值。。 The point is you bought it when you sold it, nobody bought it. Or you couldn't buy it. This has no mission value. What did Buffett say about Bitcoin? 巴菲特谈比特币:我对这完全没兴趣_财经_凤凰网 Buffett talks about bitcoin: I'm not interested at all in this. 27 November 2013 22:38
必填
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says: 哎呦,还“我对比特币所知甚少”,您就别谦虚了。你随便找两个交易平台看一下啊?特别是 比特币中国 和 国外几家主流交易平台对比一下,那价格能是全球统一的? 不同平台之间能交易? Aigoo, "I don't know much about bitcoin," so don't be modest. Why don't you just look at two trading platforms, especially between bitcoin and several mainstream trading platforms abroad?
末法时代
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said 我主要是对比特币这种东西的价值来源,不能认可,它的价值几乎是凭空而起,来源不正。 I am primarily a source of value for something such as bitcoin, and I cannot accept it. Its value is almost empty and its source is not right.
Cefull
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Cefull says 想说一下, 通货紧缩对生产者并非恶梦. 虽然货物价格变低, 同时成本价格也会变低. 但对于储蓄者是美梦, 他们的储蓄会越来越值钱; 对于欠债者才是恶梦, 他们的债务会越来越多. To say that deflation is not a nightmare for producers, even though the price of goods is lower and the cost price is lower, but for savers, their savings will be worth more and more; for the debtor, their debts will be more and more.
史诗在线
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said: “比特币创立之最终目的,在于实现货币不受监管之流通。比特币于初创之时,即已严肃考虑并绝对拒绝一切外来之限制,其中来自政府、财团、非法入侵之限制同在此列。比特币认为交易匿名之权利与生俱来,任何组织以至国家均无权剥夺。比特币决心以技术之手段,保持货币之绝对自由、匿名与稳定,不予妥协。” “The ultimate purpose of Bitcoin’s creation was to achieve unregulated currency circulation. When it was first created, Bitcoin was seriously considered and absolutely rejected all external restrictions, including restrictions on government, consortium, and unlawful invasion. Bitcoin believed that the right to remain anonymous was inherent in the transaction, and that no organization, and no country, had the right to be deprived of it. Bitcoin was determined to maintain absolute freedom, anonymity and stability of the currency by technological means, without compromise.” “比特币约定以充分非对称加密之方式设立账户,以保证身份之自由产生、完全匿名与无法伪造;比特币约定以分布共享之方式维护总帐,以确保交易永远无法阻断、消除与回退;比特币约定以工作量证明之方式,以实现交易之确认与不可伪造;比特币约定 2100 万之极限并纪录于早期之区块,以奖励前期参与者之诚实贡献并抑制破坏之企图;比特币约定众人皆有平等参与结算与订立费用之权利,以确保结算以最高效率永远有效进行;比特币约定全部结算用软件必须公开代码并永远免费,并约定只接受此类软件之请求,以确保上述约定之完全执行与不可规避,并防止欺骗。” “Bitcoin agreed to set up an account in a sufficiently asymmetrically encrypted manner to guarantee the free creation of identity, complete anonymity and non-falseability; Bitcoin agreed to maintain the general account in a distributed manner so as to ensure that the transaction could never be interrupted, eliminated or reversed; Bitcoin agreed to provide proof of workload in such a way as to achieve the confirmation and non-falseability of the transaction; Bitcoin agreed to a maximum of 21 million and recorded in early blocks in order to reward the honest contribution of the participants in the previous period and to discourage attempts to destroy; Bitcoin agreed that everyone had the right to equal participation in the settlement and the conclusion of costs in order to ensure that the settlement was conducted with maximum efficiency and efficiency, and Bitcoin agreed that all settlement software must be open and always free of charge and that requests for such software were accepted only to ensure that the agreement was fully implemented and could not be circumvented and to prevent fraud.” 这是 2008 在创立比特币论文里的话,而且已经很好执行。 That's what was said in the creation of the Bitcoin dissertation in 2008 and is already well implemented. 5 December 2013: 19:06 > >
swulling
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swilling says 比特币是透明的,想追查的话,可以追查每一笔比特币的交易过程,因此不能用于洗钱或转移资产。 Bitcoins are transparent and, if they are to be traced, they can be traced to the course of every bitcoin transaction and therefore cannot be used for money-laundering or for the transfer of assets. 有方法可以混淆的。已经有提供洗币服务了,比如blockchain的shared coins There's a way to confuse it. Money-washing services already exist, like Blockchai's share.
xujunyi
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says 比特币类似于纸黄金(黄金储量有限,开采越来越困难),可以用来结算,但是算不上现实意义上的货币。区别就是,黄金本身具有价值,而比特币没有。 Bitcoin is similar to paper gold (limited reserves of gold, increasingly difficult to extract) and can be used to settle, but it is not a relevant currency. The difference is that gold is valuable in itself, and Bitcoin is not. December 27, 2013 16:13 > citation
木枫
说:
现在已经涨得黑贵黑贵了,而且ZF已经作手屏蔽。 Now it's up and up, and ZF's got a hand shield. Looks like ZF's taking that into account too.
qq
说:
q says: 确实 黑市洗钱、网络赌博什么的用BITCOIN正好呢 It's true. Black market money laundering, Internet gambling, whatever. 5 February 2014: 21:08
孔华威
说:
says: 欢迎下次来参与BITCOIN的活动 Welcome to the BITCOIN event next time. 17 February 2014 21:49
Stephen
说:
Stephen said: 太牛了,知乎上有现实中的美国国会家属做类似的事情,发生了和您说的一样的事情! It's amazing, knowing that the family of the United States Congress is doing the same thing in reality. It's the same thing you said! 22 February 2014 08:52 quote < > >
KeenWon
说:
Keenwon says 这种东西,要被大多数人认可才行。 This kind of thing needs to be accepted by the majority. 23 March 2014 02:26
mrdaydreamer
说:
mrdaydreamer says Dell即将开始接受比特币支付,相信比特币最终是能活下来并取代传统货币的。 Dell was about to begin accepting Bitcoin payments, believing that Bitcoin would eventually survive and replace the traditional currency. 19:09
ZHAOs
说:
said 确实说中了,好像中亚有一个黑客程序员就通过这个方式转移财产,然后跑到美国。 Indeed, it is as if a hacker programmer in Central Asia was able to transfer property in this way and then go to the United States.
Travis522
说:
Travis522 says 现在已经逼近2万美元了。 December 18, 2017 15:49
rain
说:
rain says: 无论是法币,还是比特币的价值,本质都只是流通。之所以持有是因为人类主观性认为他有贮藏价值,而这个价值还是可以兑换的 “流通能力”代表。如果一直持有不流通了,那也就没有价值了。 The value of both French and bitcoin is, by its very nature, only in circulation. It is held because humans have a subjective belief that he has a storage value, and that value is also represented by a convertible “circulation capacity”. If it is kept in circulation, then it will be worthless.
cymurs
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says: 无论投机或投资,真的是看你的眼光和预期,yy一下,要是。。。但是都这时候了,还不赶紧动手,恐怕下一个五年再来发帖的时候,还是一肚子羡慕嫉妒恨 Speculation or investment is really about what you see and what you expect, yy, if. But it's about time. Don't do it. I'm afraid I'm still jealous when I come back for the next five years.
刘飞
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Says: 你以为,政府不会查你的比特币来源吗? Do you think the government won't look into your bitcoin source? 政府如何能知道你持有了比特币? How can the government know you own a bitcoin?
Yige
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Yige says 時過境遷,現在比特幣網絡已經在使用價值上落後於很多優秀的區塊鏈網絡了,比特幣網絡越來越無人問津前途堪憂,而現在BTC的價值仍是天價,懷疑早已被人操縱了,不然以其越來越微弱的使用價值,無法撐起如此之高的幣價。因bitcoin.org上的FAQ還是2013年寫的,有些內容早已過時,並有誤導人之嫌,我的博客維護了一個比特幣FAQ(2019)系列(共50餘篇),简体版:zh.bittokens.icu/tags/比特币faq/ ,其中比較核心的一篇是:比特币在今天是否还有价值? As the Bitcoin.org FAQ is still written in 2013, some of which are long overdue and misleading, my blog has defended a Bitcoin FAQ (2019) series (a total of 50 more articles), a new version: zh.bittokens.icu/tags/bitcomfaq/, which is more central: Is Bitcoin still worth today?
方方
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says: 它会供不应求!每个人都想买入,所以价格还会不断上涨。比特币总共只有2100万个,它的价格最后很可能会是天价。 It will be in short supply! Everyone wants to buy it, so the price will rise. Bitcoin is 21 million in total, and the price is likely to end up in the sky. March 16, 2021 17:26 ); < > >
jingkaimori
说:
jingkaimori says 数字贵金属,是干不过一个社会的信用的! Digital precious metals can't do a society's credit! 17 March 2021 15:49
小战士
说:
今天是2021年,我在今天才看到这个帖子。我到底错过了什么?还是我什么也没错过。也许到2031年的时候依然有人会这么说。 It's 2021, and I only saw it today. What did I miss? Or did I miss nothing. Maybe by 2031 someone would still say that. June 29, 2021:09
云有你DIY网址导航
说:
The cloud has your DIY web site Navigator says 13年刚毕业,我压根没听过这么先进的东西。阮老师就已经发文章了。——命啊。。。 When I graduated 13 years ago, I never heard anything so advanced. Mr. Nguyen has already published a post.
后生
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says: 仰观前辈们的言论 崇拜不已 I look at the words of my predecessors and worship them.
猪哥哥
说:
says Mark: 2021年10月01日,当前价格281,081.77 人民币 Mark: 01 October 2021, current price 281,081.77 yuan 1 October 2021 11:43 https://www.ruanyifeng.com/blog/2013/10/bitcoin.html#comcomcomment-429863 >a href="https://www.ruanyifeng.com/blog/2013/10/bitcoin> ;
大牛
说:
says: 佩服楼主的洞察力,但不知道仅限于说说,还是会实践。 I admire the master's insight, but I don't know if it's going to work.
ineto
说:
ineto says: “你永远无法赚到认知之外的钱。”唉 "You'll never be able to earn more than you know."
mxjz
说:
mxjz says 都是技术宅自己玩的东西,金融大鳄和国家机器不会让这种不受控的货币体制统一全球的。就算电子货币真的取代纸币了,最后也会是比特人民币,比特美元。。。一堆货币系统。现在的比特币就是靠炒作,最后终归是小散户接盘 It's all techno-house stuff, and the financial alligators and state machines don't let this uncontrollable monetary system unify the world. Even if electronic money really replaces paper currency, it'll end up with bitcoins, bit dollars. A bunch of money systems. Bitcoins now work. 你说的不错,但是后面几年的人都大捞一笔,击鼓传花就是赌博 You're right, but in the next few years, everyone's got a lot of money. 2 May 2023 17:43
Garry Kasparov
说:
Garry Kasparov says: 后之览者,亦将有感于斯文 If you look back, you'll feel it in Sven.
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引用新浪微博rss的发言:
很巧,两年前,我写了一篇博文反驳李笑来的观点:比特币BitCoin: 此物一出天下反?https://tumutanzi.com/archives/2118
引用为而不争的发言:
引用王云龙的发言:
用比特币大量转移资产或洗钱是不可能的,中国政府我不知道,美国政府是早就盯上这个交易,5月份美国监管机构就冻结了全球最大的比特币交易所Mt. Gox的两个银行账户帐户.不要低估美国情报机构的警觉性.
比特币的公信力是来自于它公开的算法,它不由某个"官方机构"发行和管理,从这点上说腾讯的Q币不可能达到这个级别,即便它发个限量版,它也受腾讯或至少政府监管.
比特币的有限性是它币值坚挺的基本前提,任何试图让盘子变大的尝试都会改变游戏规则.
Bitcoin's credibility comes from its open algorithms, it is not issued and administered by an "official agency" and the Q-dollars are unlikely to reach this level, and even if it issues a limited edition, it is either arraigned or at least regulated by the government.
The limited nature of the Bitcoins is the basic premise of its currency's strength.
Any attempt to make the plate bigger will change the rules of the game.
引用timestamp的发言:
现在看来还是很简洁但一针见血
巴菲特怎么说比特币的??:)查一查
2013年5月4日 - 巴菲特谈比特币:我对这完全没兴趣 ...巴菲特2013年股东大会...他对比特币完全没有兴趣...他说完全没兴趣...是一种由开源的P2P软件产生的电子货币
我反对“来源不正”这样的说法,bitcoin的价值也不是凭空而起的;
你可以说它来源不明,它也确实来源不明,除了作者可能没人知道是谁写的代码;
但是什么叫做来源不正啊?
凭空而起?怎么会是凭空,它是现在小圈子使用然后扩大化的,它相当于分布式赌场的筹码,筹码没有价值吗?能交换其他东西的物品就一定有价值
引用土木坛子的发言:
对于银行来说也是恶梦, 银行的主要利益来自杠杆操作, 通货紧缩会令其成本变高, 风险大增. 对政府来说也是恶梦, 因为政府是欠债最多的个体, 其赤字会越来越难弥补.
所以我认为银行和政府会极力排拆 bitcoin, 但平民百姓会欢迎这东西.
It's also a nightmare for banks, whose main interest comes from leverage, which increases their costs and risks. It's also a nightmare for governments, because governments are the most indebted individuals, and their deficits will become increasingly difficult to cover.
So I think banks and governments will work hard to remove bitcoin, but the civilian population will welcome this.
引用pnig0s的发言:
看来ZF也是考虑到了博主说的这一点了
在国内期间弄到了国内大量官员的财产信息,去美国后把这些信息都披露了。
然后成了国内的神人。
我没有考证是否真实。
gets information about the property of a large number of officials in the country during the domestic period, and then discloses it when they go to the United States.
and then becomes a god in the country.
I don't have a test for authenticity.
2010年5月22日,一位名叫Laszlo Hanyecz的程序员用一万比特币购买了两个披萨,这也被认为是第一笔通过比特币进行的交易。如果按现在的行情计算,Laszlo Hanyecz吃掉的两个披萨大概值两亿美元。
On May 22, 2010, a programmer named Laszlo Hanyecz purchased two pizzas in 10,000 bits, which is also considered to be the first deal to be made through bitcoin. If at present, Laszlo Hanyecz eats two pizzas worth about $200 million.
引用蚂蚁星空的发言:
现在的价格是 56,016.60 美元1枚。
按照阮老师的思路,还会继续涨!
The price is now 56,016.60 dollars apiece.
According to Mr. Nguyen, the price will continue to rise!
如果实践了的话,现在必是亿万富翁了。
If it's done, it's going to be a billionaire now.
引用hyperion_cc的发言:
陈少举 说:
says:
淘宝上刚出现比特币的时候,50CNY=1BTC,可惜没大量购入……
50 CNY = 1BTC, but it wasn't purchased in large quantities...
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