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2019年7月11日,由ChainDD、链得得主办,矿海学院联合主办的全球区块链精英聚会“共识之夜 · 深圳酒会”正式启动。

On 11 July 2019, , a global block chain elite gathering hosted by ChainDD and organized by the Institute of Mines and Seas, “The Night of Consensus: The Shenzhen Wine” was officially launched.

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作为行业头部区块链内容、数据及技术综合服务商,链得得携手美国纽约本土公司 ChainDD,聚拢来自全世界加密市场和区块链领域的权势人物、 尖端大脑、精英团队,在数字货币发展的关键节点,把握市场的脉搏跳动,夜话行业走向,眺望商业未来。

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为打造中美区块链及加密资产信息通路,本次链得得ChainDD深圳酒会特别拟定中美机构深度对话环节,美方有J.P.Morgan,Morgan Stanley, OPPENHEIMER, Block5 Ventures, Deloitte等知名机构出席。

In order to build a Chinese-American block chain and encrypted asset information access, this chain has been specially designed by the ChainDD Shenzhen Liquor Society for in-depth dialogue between Chinese and United States institutions, with the participation of such well-known institutions as J.P. Morgan Morgan Stanley, OPPENHEIMER, Block5 Ventures, Deloitte and others.

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在【ChainDD共识之夜】酒会的圆桌论坛环节,来自加密市场和区块链领域的精英团队就“牛市出现,如何把握加密市场的趋势机会”话题展开激烈谈论。

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主持人:李非凡|链得得总裁

Moderator: > > > > >.

对话嘉宾:

Dialogue guest:

胡静|BTC.com?COO

杜诗圣|大陆方舟总经理

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马磊|玉石链社区负责人

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俞队长|矿海会 COO

Captain RYU's COO /Span

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针对链得得总裁李非凡提出:从2018-2019年经历了从熊市到牛市的时代,如何把握更好的机会,包括矿圈的市场和投资现状;小币种牛市初始的准备、布局和商业模式的尝试;以及给新人的投资建议等相关问题,在场各位嘉宾给出了他们自己的看法。以下为嘉宾观点实录,经链得得App编辑整理如下:

From 2018 2019, how to seize better opportunities, including the market and investment status of the mine ring; the initial preparation, layout and business model of the small-scale cattle market; and the investment proposal for newcomers.

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李非凡:现场有很多来自不同领域的人,包括矿圈、项目方、公链、资本圈,每个人看待这个市场的红利方式不一样。从2018-2019年经历了熊市到牛市的时代我们如何把握更好的机会?作为矿圈人士,如何看待目前矿圈的价格水涨船高,现在挖矿回本周期速度缩短。现在很多人牛市买币,熊市挖矿的说法,是否还适用于现在的市场?

From 2018 to 2019, how do we take better chances? > /slang > > > people from a variety of fields, including mine circles, project parties, public chains, capital circles. Everyone sees the dividends of this market differently.

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胡静:挖矿等于加了一倍杠杆,但市值上升时,币价上升,机器也在上升。我们的客户(矿工)经常说某种程度来说,币价对于矿工的影响有一定的滞后性,矿工可以在保本情况下一直挖下去。从我的角度来说,目前配置挖矿还是一个相对更好的选择。

Our customers (miners) often say that the currency price is somewhat delayed in terms of the impact on miners, and the miners can dig under the warrant. From my point of view, the mining is still a relatively better option.

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李非凡:现在矿圈行业有新的商业模式,越来越多的矿圈人士在逐渐把资管和投资业务作为他们增值的方式。如何看待未来在矿圈选择投资或者更好的变现方式?看好哪一块?

There's a new business model in the mining industry, and more and more miners are increasingly looking at investment management and investment as a way of adding value. How do you see the future of investment or better liquidity in the mining world?

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胡静:目前来说,这是一个比较明朗的方向和趋势。BTC.com最近慢慢的采纳这一块,对于POS挖矿的方式。个人觉得任何一个行业的资本变成物时,必然上升到资本运作的层面。包括金融衍生出来的业务,它会有越来越多的人采纳、融入进来。

BTC.com's recent slow adoption of this section, for the way POS digs. When a person feels that capital in any industry becomes something, it must rise to the level of capital operations. Including financial derivatives, it will be more and more adopted and integrated.

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李非凡:现在敢说不发币赚钱的人特别少,大陆方舟在商业模式上以及未来的预期上,不依靠代币的情况下,如何做更好的投入和更好的收入?

> >. > strong > how can the continent's ark be better invested and better earned without relying on a token in its business model and future expectations?

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杜诗圣:行业中发币的项目很多,这和国家系统政策有联系。大陆方舟投的项目是有国家产业背书的,我们正在与邮政总署谈,同时已经在和海关总署合作,这是国家强权的政府项目。我们希望打响全球的第一枪。不发币是暂时的,区块链的效果可能没有实质性的进步,我们可以把前期的基础工作做好,既然未来已来,就不怕它来得晚一点。

We're talking with the Postal Administration, and we're working with the Customs Administration, which is the government project of the National Power. We want to sound the first shot globally. Without the currency, there may be no substantial progress on the effects of the block chain, and we can get the foundations of the previous period done, and now that it's coming, it's not too late.

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李非凡:在场有很多项目方,这次上涨主要以主流币上涨为主要形式,小币种没有流量进入。在牛市开始之前应该做怎样的准备、布局和商业模式的尝试,更好的抓住牛市的机会?

>, with the rise mainly in the mainstream currency and the absence of a flow of small currency entry. >, what preparation, layout and business model should be attempted before the start of the cow market, so as to better seize the opportunity of the cow market?

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马磊:要有实体的支撑,做到虚实结合才能真正的落地。

: > has to be supported by entities to be genuinely united in order to be truly on the ground.

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李非凡:俞队长,在您个人看来如何定义这一次的准牛市?它的持续时间多长?在矿圈来看,未来的增量多大?

How long has it been in your personal opinion to define the target cow market for this time? How long has it lasted?

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俞阳:今年矿圈的行情很像2017下半年,这一次有很多机构和资本积极往矿圈布局,买机器、布局矿产的都很好。有客观条件限制。现在算力在涨,相对于可以承载算力的矿厂越来越少。算力如何跟币价相匹配,理论上是当币价上涨时算力跟随上涨,虽然有一定延迟,但基本相符。中间有算力否间,资本肯定有算力的布局。

There are objective conditions. > this year was much like the second half of 2017, and this time a lot of institutions and capital were active in laying out the ring, buying machines and laying minerals. There are limits to objective conditions. > strong > now counts as less and less than a mine that can carry it. calculatespan > calculates in the second half of this year, theoretically as money increases, albeit with some delay.

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矿场是一个风险很高的地方。电没那么容易能拿到,但矿机很好买,矿机厂商只要几天就能生产出来。现在的情况来看,现在处于僵持状态,我对后续的牛市有比较大的信心。

The mine is a high-risk place. Electricity is not so easy to get, but it's good to buy, and the miner can produce it in a few days. Now, as we see it, there's a standoff, and I have a lot of faith in the next cow market.

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李非凡:现在在矿池中有一些新的方向,如托管业务、主队投资基金,形成新的金融方案,如何看待这些方案在牛市中的前景,哪个赛道比较看好?

> now has some new directions in the ponds, such as hosting operations, host group investment funds, the formation of new financial programmes, how do strong > see the prospects of these programmes in the cow city, and which track is better?

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俞阳:只看好算力。现在算力有很多生态变化,我们在用算力尝试当股权、期权支付时,接受方接受度很高,能力灵活,实际上有很多用处。这是新的经济模型,看后续的发展。我还是比较看好POW。

>. There are many ecological changes in >, and when we try with arithmetic power to pay shares and options, the recipient is highly accepted, flexible and actually useful. This is a new economic model, and I look at subsequent developments. >.

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杜诗圣:我们的行业比传统的金融领域有太多的来不及,很多新的点会出现。这里有一个时间的窗口,这个窗口是很短暂的。我相信明年有新的模式不停演变出来。但拿三五年来看,我坚信POW能走到最后。

There's a window of time here, and this window is short. I believe there's a new pattern that's evolving. But for three or five years, I'm convinced that Pow can come to the end.

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用一个不太标准的词来形容,投资和投机,投资是长期性行为,投机是短期性行为,你是否比别人在资源上、方方面面的技术上有更好的赛道。能先进入就可以在这个来到中获得成功。你会发现有很多新名词冒出来,我相信POW在未来过程中,算力是永恒的。

describes investment and speculation as long-term sex, speculation as short-term sex, whether you have a better track than anyone else on the resource and technology in all its aspects. You can be successful here. You'll find a lot of new terms coming up, and I believe Pow in the future.

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有一句话说“算力资本”,在场有很多币圈或者链圈的朋友没有真正在算力的世界拼搏过、工作过,当你看到10万台矿机轰鸣时,你会觉得这是天籁之音。我们经历了链圈和矿圈,我们个人觉得POW是更多人的共识。现在比较流行的是50%做POW,50%做POS,这相当于是一种妥协。我们觉得妥协也可以,全部都做POS也可以,最终POW会有更稳定的表现。

There's a saying in that, in the case of money circles or chains of friends who have not really fought or worked in the world of computing, you'll think it's the sound of heaven when you see 100,000 miners. We've gone through chains and mine circles, and we personally think that Pow is the consensus of more people. Now it's more popular to do 50% Pow and 50% POS, which is a compromise. We think that compromise can be, all of them can be POS, and eventually Pow will be more stable.

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李非凡:俞队长,现场有很多人问我,他们希望了解矿圈的人对矿机的选购、矿产矿石的构建,现在入场要注意什么?现在入场是不是好时机?

Captain RYU: /span > >, many people at the scene asked me if they wanted to know about the miner's selection, the construction of the mineral ore. > strong >, what's the point of coming in? >? ?

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俞阳:什么时候挖矿都是好时机,关键是你要去做,很多时候很多人关注的是我现在入场时机对不对,矿圈的人从来不想这么多,为什么?当你买的矿机看到它每一分每一秒都为你创造比特币时,你就知道什么时候入场都不晚。

> is a good time to dig. The key is that you do it. Many people are concerned about the timing of my arrival, right? People in mine circles never think so much. Why? When you buy a mine machine that creates , you'll know when it's not too late.

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李非凡:如果让你建议,你会给新入场人有什么建议?

What kind of advice would you give to newcomers if you suggested?

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俞阳:今年有很多云算力,对小白来说是比较方便的。挖矿获得比特币的成本永远比二级市场低,不管是重新挖矿还是怎样获得都比较低。今年出了这么多云算力,里面有很多是带模式的、带资金盘的玩法,这是拉人头的,大家要小心。

The cost of mining bitcoin is always lower than that of secondary markets, whether re-mining or how. This year, so much of it comes out, and there's a lot of pattern, a lot of game, a lot of money, that's head-pushing, and be careful.

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李非凡:最后请各位预测自己对这一轮熊市的看法,每个人的预测不一样。我先来,作为媒体人或者这个行业的观察者、参与者,我觉得综合我们了解到今年下半年来自美国的情况,来自中国制度层面、交易层面的变化,个人认为今年BTC可能会在某个时间点上接近2万美金的关口,我对今年的后市比较乐观。大家怎么看?

I came first as a mediaman or as an observer and participant in the industry, and I think we have an overview of the situation in the United States in the second half of this year, from the systemic and transactional dimensions of China. Personally, believes that BTC may be approaching $20,000 this year at some point in time. I'm more optimistic about the future of this year. What do you think?

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胡静:我无法准确到数据,可以看一个趋势。我个人觉得到减半节点肯定会有一波上涨,在那之后可能会有动荡的回调。我们觉得2021年会出现一波更大的牛市,现在应该处于熊转牛的阶段。

I can't get the data right and see a trend. Personally, I think there's going to be a wave of ups and ups and downs at the halfway node, and there's going to be a violent echo after that. We think there'll be a bigger cow in 2021, and it's time to be at the stage of the bear's turn.

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杜诗圣:今年三月份开始上涨时,我想行业中很多资深人士、大佬以及很多“老韭菜”都没意料到会来得这么快。6月底时接近1.4万美金,这是大家没料到的。

When the rise began in March this year, I thought that a lot of senior people in the industry, the big man and many old people would come so fast. At the end of June, close to $14,000, which was unexpected to all of you.

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看长远的大趋势,相信我的说辞和绝大多数人一样,大家都会认为在算力减半之前应该会有一次突破2万美金,现在达到20万人民币是没问题的。我觉得2021年底应该会达到5万美金,应该是没问题的。过程是曲折的,过程中可能要经历下跌30-40%,甚至斩半。如果你看到未来不要在意眼前一点点的困难。

In view of the long-term trend, I believe that, like the vast majority of people, everyone would think that there should be a breakthrough of $20,000 before the amount of money is halved, and that it would be okay to reach 200,000 yuan. I think it would be okay if you didn't see 50,000 dollars by the end of 2021. The process of >span strong is a twist and may experience a 30-40% drop or even a half. //span If you see the future not a bit of difficulty ahead.

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马磊:比特币的趋势每个人的理解不一样,了解我的朋友知道我不炒币,我只藏币。我曾经也是一名矿工,今年4月份时比特币把我的信仰打破了,我没有卖币,我把矿机卖了。很多人不支持,当时卖矿机的钱抄底买了比特币,我认为大家持有就好,有能力持有,不一定要炒币。曾经我卖过,再买的时候没买上,最后你的币没了就真的没了。大家说你的币怎么没的?凭本事没的,我觉得今年年底一定会突破2万美金。

I used to be a miner who broke my faith in April, and I didn't sell my money, and I sold the mine machine. Many people didn't support it when the money sold the mine had bought bitcoin, and I think everyone had the capacity to hold it, and not the money. Once I sold it, I didn't buy it, and finally your coins were gone.

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俞阳:年底前,我维持看多,先到1.5万美金再说。客观来说,我觉得1.8-2.2美金之间。

>. > > >. I think objectively between $1.8 and $2.2 > >.

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李非凡:刚才跟现场各位,无论是项目方、矿圈还是链圈的资深人士讨论牛市时候如何判断后市,如何让大家更好的理解这个行业的发展趋势。各位的观点也会被我们收录起来,让大家看到我们对未来的利好判断。稍候我们将连接纽约,为大家作出第一手的资深来自美国华尔街的判断。

> has just been discussing with everyone on the ground, whether seniors in the project, in the mine or in the chain, how to judge the future of the bull market and how to make it better understood. Your views will also be recorded so that we can see that we are good judges of the future. We will connect New York and give you a first-hand judgement from Wall Street in the United States.

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本次酒会采用定向邀请与筛选制,广泛聚集了来自美国华尔街、科技商业、法律监管界、区块链与数字货币投资领域的顶端人士。一场全球资本、科技、商业界的跨界资源碰撞正在上演,链得得、ChainDD将以中英文专题的方式对现场内容进行独家报道,以及向中英双语区的用户进行完整传播。

, using a targeted invitation and screening system, brings together a wide range of top people from Wall Street, Science and Technology Business, Legal Regulatory Community, Block Chains and Digital Currency Investment in the United States. A cross-border resource collision between global capital, technology, and business is taking place.

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Note : This is an original article in the chain that is not authorized to be reproduced; . Please leave a message or contact the mailbox Shengsun@chaind.com. for reproduction/content cooperation.

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